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== Job submission related issues ==
== Job submission related issues ==
=== Why are /core and -t deploy incompatible ? ===
Jobs with type <code>deploy</code> imply the exclusive usage of a node. Therefore, specifying core information for your submission can only lead to some inconsistencies. It is therefore prohibited by an admission rule.


=== Why did my advance reservation start with less than all the resources I requested ? ===
=== Why did my advance reservation start with less than all the resources I requested ? ===

Revision as of 09:33, 7 July 2022

About this document

How to add/correct an entry to the FAQ?

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Just like any other page of this wiki, you can edit the FAQ yourself to improve it. If you click on one of the little "edit" placed after each question, you'll get the possibility to edit that particular question. To edit the whole page, simply choose the edit tab at the top of the page.

Publications and Grid'5000

Is there an official acknowledgement ?

Yes there is: you agreed to it when accepting the usage policy. As the policy might have been updated since, please refer to the latest version. You should use it on all publications presenting results obtained (even partially) using Grid'5000.

How to mention Grid'5000 in HAL  ?

HAL is an open archive you're invited to use. If you do so, the recommended way of mentioning Grid'5000 is to use the collaboration field of submission form, with the Grid'5000 keyword, capitalized as such.

Account management

I forgot my password, how can I retrieve it ?

To retrieve your password, you can use this form, or ask your account manager to reset it.

My account expired, how can I extend it?

Use the account management interface (Manage account link in the sidebar).

Why doesn't my home directory contain the same files on every site?

Every site has its own file server, this is the user's responsibility to synchronize the personal data between his home directory on the different sites. You may use the rsync command to synchronize a remote site home directory (be careful this will erase any file that are not the same as on the local home directory):

rsync -n --delete -avz ~ frontend.site.grid5000.fr:~

NB : please remove the -n argument once you are sure you actually don't want to do a dry-run only...;)

How to get my home mounted on deployed nodes?

This is completely automatic if you deploy a *-nfs or *-big image (automount).

  • You can connect using your own username and should land in your home;
  • If connecting as root, once connected to the node, just change directory your home and it will be mounted:
 cd /home/username
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But home of other users cannot be mounted, for security reasons.

How to restore a wrongly deleted file?

No backup facility is provided by Grid'5000 platform. Please watch your fingers and do backup your data using external backup services.

What about disk quotas ?

See the section about the /home in the Storage page.

How do I unsubscribe from the mailing-list ?

Users' mailing-list subscription is tied to your Grid'5000 account. You can configure your subscriptions in your account settings:

How to unsubscribe from the mailing list

Alternate method, by configuring Sympa to stop receiving any email from the list (while still being subscribed):

  • If you haven't done it before, ask for a password on sympa.inria.fr from this form: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/firstpasswd/. Use the email address you used to register to Grid'5000.
  • Connect to https://sympa.inria.fr using your email address you used to register to Grid'5000 and your sympa.inria.fr password.
  • From the left panel, select users_grid5000. Then go to your subscriber options (Options d'abonné) and in the reception field (Mode de réception), select suspend (interrompre la réception des messages).

Network access to/from Grid'5000

How can I connect to Grid'5000 ?

This is documented at length in the Getting Started tutorial.

You should be able to access Grid'5000 from anywhere on the Internet, by connecting to access.grid5000.fr using SSH. You'll need SSH keys properly configured (please refer to the page dedicated to SSH if you don't understand these last words) as this machine will not allow you to log using a password.

Some sites have an access.site.grid5000.fr machine, which is only reachable from an IP address coming from local laboratory (replace site with the actual site name).

How to connect from different workstations with the same account?

You can associate several public SSH keys to your account. In order to do so, you have to:

  • login
  • go to User Portal > Manage Account,
  • select the My account top tab,
  • select the SSH keys left tab,
  • then, manage your keys:
    • add a new public SSH key ;
    • remove an old one.

More information in the SSH page and the Public key authentication page.

How to directly connect by SSH to any machine within Grid'5000 from my workstation?

This tip consists of customizing SSH configuration file ~/.ssh/config (compatible with OpenSSH ssh client)

Host *.g5k
   User login
   ProxyCommand ssh login@access.grid5000.fr -W "$(basename %h .g5k):%p"

You can then connect to any machine using ssh machine.site.g5k

Please have a look at the SSH page for a deeper understanding and more information.

For users of powershell in Microsoft Windows which also comes with OpenSSH ssh client, mind adapting the configuration as the basename command may not be available.

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Grid'5000 internal network uses private IP V4 addresses and are not directly reachable from outside of Grid'5000

Is access to the Internet possible from nodes?

Full Internet access is allowed from Grid'5000 network to the Internet.

All IPv4 communication is NATed, while with IPv6 each node uses its own public IPv6 address.

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For security reasons, all connections are logged.

What is the source address of outcoming traffic from Grid'5000 nodes to the Internet?

The IPv4 outcoming traffic from Grid'5000 nodes to the Internet is NATed. The public IPv4 addresses used as sources for the NATed packets are:

   194.254.60.35 (nr-lil-536.grid5000.fr)
   194.254.60.13 (nr-sop-535.grid5000.fr)

How can I connect to an HTTP or HTTPS service running on a node?

See the HTTP/HTTPs_access page.

How can I share file from Grid'5000 using HTTP?

See the HTTP/HTTPs_access page.

Could I access Grid'5000 nodes directly from the internet?

For other protocols than SSH and HTTP/HTTPs which provide lighter specific solutions, see the VPN and Reconfigurable_Firewall.

SSH related questions

See the SSH page.

Software installation issues

What is the general philosophy ?

This is how things should work: a basic set of software is installed on the frontends and nodes' standard environment of each site. If you need some other software packages on nodes, you can create a Kadeploy image including them, and deploy it. You can also use at sudo-g5k. If you think those software should be installed by default, you can contact the support-staff.

Deployment related issues

My environment does not work on all clusters

It some rare occasion, an environment may not work on a given cluster:

  1. The kernel used does not support all hardware. You are advised to base your environment on one of the reference environments to avoid dealing with this, or to carefully read the hardware section of each site to see the list of kernel drivers that need to be compiled in your environment for it to be able to boot on all clusters. Of course, when a new cluster is integrated, you might need to update your kernel for portability.
  2. The post-installation scripts do not recognize your environment, and therefore network access, console access or site specific configurations are not taken into account. You can check the contents of the default post-installation scripts to see the variables set by kadeploy by looking at environment's description using kaenv.

Kadeploy fails with Image file not found!

This means that kadeploy is not able to read your environment's main archive. This can be caused by many reasons, i.e:

  • registered filename is wrong
  • extension is not right (for example .tar.gz does not work, whereas .tgz is OK)

Kadeploy is complaining about a node already involved in an other deployment

The waring you see is

node node is already involved in another deployment

This error occurs

  • when 2 concurrent deployments are attempted on the same node. If you have 2 simultaneous deployments, make sure you have 2 distinct sets of nodes.
  • when there is a problem in the kadeploy database: typically when a deployment ended in a strange way, this can happen. The best is to wait for about 15 minutes and retry the deployment: kadeploy can correct its database automatically.

How to kill all my processes on a host ?

On the currently connected host (warning, it will disconnect you)

kill -KILL -1

How do I exit from kaconsole on cluster X from site Y

You can try & then . sequence (just like typing &.), but this may not work on all clusters. The Kaconsole page may give you more information.

Job submission related issues

Why did my advance reservation start with less than all the resources I requested ?

Since resources states are transitional, the advance reservation process considers indifferently the current state of resources, be it alive, suspended or absent. Indeed, at the requested start time of an advance reservation, all resources in any of those states should presumably be back in the alive state.

This is different for resources in the dead state, which mark failed resources. Although dead resources may be repaired at some point, that state is less transitional, so dead resources are excluded from eligible resources for advance reservations.

Also, the allocation of resources to an advance reservation is fixed at the time of validation of the submission (contrarily to batch jobs for which both the start time and allocated resources can change up until the job is effectively started, in order to fit with all requested resources available). As a consequence, resources allocated to an advance reservation which would end up unavailable at the job start time are not replaced by other alive resources.

In fact, at the start time of an advance reservation, OAR looks after any unavailable resources (absent or suspected), and whenever some exists, wait for them to return to the alive state for 5 minutes. Then, if they are not back in time, the job starts with less resources than requested and initially allocated (assuming at least one resource is available).

NB

Information about reduced number of resources or reduced walltime for a reservation due to this mechanism are available in the event part of the output of

oarstat -fj jobid

How can I check whether my reservations are respecting the Grid'5000 Usage Policy ?

You can use the script usagepolicycheck, present on all frontends. See if your current reservations are respecting the Policy with usagepolicycheck -t, use usagepolicycheck -h to see the other options.

To help respecting the usage policy, it is possible to use day and night OAR job types to fit batch jobs inside day vs. night / week-end time frames. More details are available in the Advanced OAR guide.

Access to logs

OAR database logs

Grid'5000 gives the possibility to all users to use a read only access to OAR's database. You should be able to connect using PostgresSQL client as user oarreader with password read to database oar2 on all oardb.site.grid5000.fr. This gives you access to the complete history of jobs on all Grid'5000 sites. This gives you read-only access to the production database of OAR: please be careful with your queries to avoid overloading the testbed!

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Careful: Grid'5000 is not a computation grid, nor HPC center, nor a Cloud (Grid'5000 is a research instrument). That means that the usage of Grid'5000 by itself (OAR logs of Grid'5000 users' reservations) does not reflect a typical usage of any such infrastructure. It is therefore not relevant to analyze Grid'5000 OAR logs to that purpose. As a user, one can however use Grid'5000 to emulate a HPC cluster or cloud on reserved resources (in a job), possibly injecting a real load from a real infrastructure.

Example of access to logs

In this example, we use the PostgresSQL client to generate a CSV file, named '~/oardata.csv', containing all the jobs of the user 'toto'. Each row of the file will be one job of the user. The columns of the CSV file will be the list of nodes assigned to the job, the number of nodes, the number of cores, the cluster name, the submission time, start time and stop time, the job ID, the job name (if any), the job type, the command executed by the job (if any) and the request made by the user.

First, on one of the frontend nodes, launch the client

 psql -h oardb.grenoble.grid5000.fr -U oarreader oar2

Then, after entering the password, run the following command (change the user name and the file name if needed):

 \copy (Select string_agg(Distinct host, '/') as hosts, Count(Distinct host) as nb_hosts, Count(Distinct resources.resource_id) as nb_cores,cluster,submission_time,start_time,stop_time,job_id,job_name,job_type,command,initial_request From jobs Inner Join assigned_resources on jobs.assigned_moldable_job = assigned_resources.moldable_job_id Inner Join resources on assigned_resources.resource_id = resources.resource_id Where job_user = 'toto' Group By jobs.submission_time,jobs.start_time,jobs.stop_time,jobs.job_id,jobs.job_name,jobs.job_type,jobs.command,resources.cluster) To '~/oardata.csv' With CSV;

About OAR

How to know if a node is in energy-saving mode or really absent?

Nodes in energy-saving mode are:

The state "Absent (standby)" means that the node is shut down in order to save energy.

Nodes in the standby state will be automatically started by OAR when it will be needed.

Advanced users who check directly the OAR database can determine if a node is in energy-saving mode or absent with the field "available_upto" in the resources table.

If energy-saving is enabled on the cluster, the field "available_upto" provides a date (Unix timestamp) until when the resource will be available.

  • A node "Absent" is in energy-saving mode if the field "available_upto" is greater than the current Unix timestamp

An example of SQL query listing absent nodes because of the energy-saving mode:

SELECT distinct(host) FROM resources WHERE state="Absent" AND available_upto >= UNIX_TIMESTAMP()
  • A node "Absent" is really absent if :

- the field "available_upto" is equal to 0
- or the field "available_upto" is smaller than the current UNIX timestamp (this case should not occur upon Grid'5000)

An example of SQL query listing really absent nodes:

SELECT distinct(host) FROM resources WHERE state='Absent' AND (available_upto < UNIX_TIMESTAMP() OR available_upto = 0)

Note that if looking in the past at a node (e.g. in the Drawgantt diagram) that was woken-up, it just shows a period of "absent" state (blue stipes) rather than "standby".

How to detect nodes in maintenance ?

Nodes in maintenance are nodes with a Dead state, a OAR maintenance property set to YES, or temporary in a really absent state (see above).

How to execute jobs within another one ?

For this functionality OAR provides the container job type. But please also have a look at the GNU Parallel tool, which may be more relevant and efficient.

With this functionality it is possible to execute several jobs inside another one, involving the OAR scheduling. This is especially relevant for tutorials or teaching labs, where jobs are created by a set of different users.

If all jobs, container and inner are from a same user, using GNU Parallel should be prefered.

  • First create a job of type container, for example:
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oarsub -I -t container -t cosystem -l nodes=10,walltime=2:10:00
...
OAR_JOB_ID=13542
...
  • Then the inner job type can be used, to get new jobs scheduled inside the previously created container job:
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oarsub -I -t inner=13542 -l nodes=7,walltime=0:30:00
Terminal.png node:
oarsub -I -t inner=13542 -l nodes=3,walltime=0:45:00

More information in Advanced_OAR#Container_jobs

About checkpoint/restart support in OAR

The Grid'5000 OAR service setup does not provide a seamless checkpoint/restart mechanism for jobs. While this is obviously a most wanted feature especially for long running tasks that have to be split in order to fit in the platform usage policy, we think this is better to let the user take care of it. Indeed, while some techniques exist, such as CRIU [1], none seems satisfactory enough for a sustainable deployment in Grid'5000.

Note that OAR provides a mechanism to trigger an application to checkpoint itself [2], and to get a checkpointed job resubmitted.

Maintenance on Grid'5000

A maintenance slot is planned every Thursday on Grid'5000.

If a maintenance can impact the users jobs, we announce it on the mailing list users@lists.grid5000.fr .

When a maintenance is announced, you can follow its progress on the platform's operation schedule

How to use MPI in Grid5000?

See also : The MPI Tutorial

How to share data with other users in Grid5000?

See also : Storage

How do I access to other scientific infrastructures from Grid'5000 ?

Jean Zay supercomputer (and possibly others GENCI supercomputers)

If you have an account on the Jean Zay supercomputer operated by the Institute for Development and Resources in Intensive Scientific Computing (IDRIS), it is possible to connect directly to it using ssh/scp/sftp from Grid'5000 frontends or reserved nodes.

For this to be effective, you must add the Grid'5000 SSH outcoming IP addresses to the list of the IP addresses bound to your Jean Zay account.

These addresses are:

  • 194.254.60.35 (nr-lil-536.grid5000.fr)
  • 194.254.60.13 (nr-sop-535.grid5000.fr)

The procedure is the following:

  • Then fill in the required sections:
    • "Add, modify or delete machines"
      • add IP/name of the two IP/name addresses cited above
      • both you and your associated security manager must sign this part of the form
    • "Complete this box only if the machines are under the responsibility of an organisation or a department which is not the demander’s organisation"
      • Organisation hosting the machines: GIS Grid'5000
      • Laboratory unit number (if CNRS) or acronym: Grid'5000
      • Address: https://www.grid5000.fr
      • Telephone: leave this field blank
      • Last name, first name and qualification/function of the site manager: Pierre Neyron/Simon Delamare, Technical Directors
      • Professional e-mail address: support-staff@grid5000.fr
      • Telephone: leave this field blank
  • Send us your request by mail at support-staff@grid5000.fr:
    • Subject: Request to connect to Jean Zay supercomputer from Grid'5000
    • Attached: the above form filled and signed (PDF)
    • Body of the mail (example): Hello, could you please sign the attached form because I need it to access to Jean Zay from Grid'5000 ? Best regards. YOU.
  • We will send you back the form with our signature, and you will have to send the form to gestutil@idris.fr (this will take roughly a day for this to be effective)